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Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby marteezy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:42 pm

Looks like this thing isn't going away, which isn't a good thing for the organization. Hopefully more people aren't implicated throughout the course of the testimony.

NBC Sports - HardballTalk: Former Cardinals scouting director to be indicted for hacking the Astros today
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/01/08/for ... ros-today/
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby mhardy_03 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:37 pm

marteezy wrote:Looks like this thing isn't going away, which isn't a good thing for the organization. Hopefully more people aren't implicated throughout the course of the testimony.

NBC Sports - HardballTalk: Former Cardinals scouting director to be indicted for hacking the Astros today
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/01/08/for ... ros-today/

What do you mean it isn't going away? He is pleading guilty to the charges which should end this whole thing.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/01/c ... -hack.html
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby R27 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:34 pm

Why would it have gone away? The FBI wasn't going to just let it drop.

Looks like they're close to a plea deal and, at least, from a legal standpoint will be over.

Then it's up to the MLB to decide what they want to do with the Cardinals. I'm expecting the $2 million fine (the maximum a commissioner can fine a team), potentially a first round draft pick, and the commissioner will probably also award the Astros damages that aren't limited by the $2 million max fine rule.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby R27 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:09 pm

He has officially entered his guilty plea. Sentencing on April 11th. But this is interesting...



Lots of good stuff on his feed right now: https://twitter.com/dfbarron

Federal attorneys value the information that Correa accessed at $1.7 million. Correa used a masking software to try to hide his identity while accessing Ground Control.

Maximum penalty for his guilty plea on five counts is five years per count, $250k in fines per count, and restitution. Though because he pled out, I'm sure it will be much less.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby marteezy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:55 pm

NBC Sports - HardballTalk: Ex-Cardinals Scouting Director Christopher Correa got access to A LOT of Astros information
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/01/08/ex- ... formation/
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby marteezy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:22 pm

As part of that plea, Correa admitted accessing Astros computers without authorization from at least March 2013 to the end of June 2014. He began by accessing the email account of one Astros employee who used to work for the Cardinals, referred to in documents as “Victim A.” Correa took advantage of the fact that Victim A had used a password for his Astros email that was similar to the one he had used for the Cardinals, and the fact that Victim A had to turn in his laptop and password when he left the Cardinals.

He also accessed the accounts of that employee and two others, Victims B and C, in the Astros proprietary database known as “Ground Control.” Both Victim A and Victim B once worked in analytics for the Cardinals.

On March 24, 2013, Correa viewed an Excel file of every player eligible for the draft from Victim A's account the Ground Control database, as well as Astro scouts' evaluations of prospects and proposed bonuses to be offered to them.

On June 8, Correa accessed information on undrafted players and players that had recently been drafted by the Astros, the Cardinals and one unnamed team.

On July 31, the trade deadline, Correa accessed information about trade discussions.

After the Astros implemented new security procedures, prompted by a Houston Chronicle story about Ground Control, the Astros emailed a new URL for the Ground Control website and a new default password to employees.

Correa grabbed that information from Victim A's email and used it to access Victim B's Ground Control account on March 10, 2014, viewing 118 pages of “confidential” information including a ranking of players the Astros wanted, information on trade discussions and evaluations of players of interest to the Astros at various levels.

A few hours later, in the early morning of March 11, Correa viewed more information from Victim B's account, then accessed Victim C's account, his plea agreement says.


Seems like a little more than just popping in to take a look.

Former Cardinals scouting director admits illegal access to Astros' database http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball ... a8095.html
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby mhardy_03 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:01 pm

Yep, quite a bit worse than it was first reported. He may serve some jail time.

But it is much closer to being over now than it was. Once MLB gives its punishment, it is over with as far as the Cardinals are concerned.

If it is true that the Astros did steal stuff from the Cards as implied by the tweet that R27 referenced, then it may just be starting for the Astros.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby chevyman58 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:47 pm

This is such a MINOR Deal. Marteezy's been acting like it's The Great Train Robbery since the beginning. Still fanning the flames today.

Just as I said from the very beginning - no systemic corporate espionage, no cultural foundation, no conspiracy, ho gained value. One guy, a dumba**, a former protege of Luhnow, goes in 3 times. That's it. Hardly a huge threat to humanity.

We fired him, they'll prosecute him and he gets what's coming thereafter for his stupidity. Any MLB career is gone.

Hopefully prior comparisons by MT to the Patriots don't have him lobbying the Commish to fine us millions & kill years of draft picks.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby R27 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:00 pm

Based on the plea deal, three separate instances of access. Though, his recounting indicates as many as five.

The MLB's angle really depends on if they can confirm that the Astros actually took proprietary knowledge. If they did, I hope Manfred will call it even and move on. But I'm not even sure there's a way to really prove or disprove that without opening up each team's intellectual property and I doubt either would want to do that.

Even with non-compete and non-disclosure agreements, if you're building a similar system to one you helped build at a former employer, you're going to use some of the same concepts. It's just going to happen, even if unintentional because everything you've ever done informs everything you will do. So there's really no doubt that the Astros' system is very similar to the Cardinals' system.

While it's bad for the Cardinals it was a really stupid decision for Correa who, by all accounts, was destined to be a great baseball executive if he continued on his current trajectory.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby marteezy » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:07 am

Problem is, the Astros didn't break into the Cardinals system. When a guy leaves your organization it's almost a given that he's going to take some information with him. And in the event that you suspect that he took proprietary information, it isn't your job to break into their system to confirm your suspicions, you report it to league officials and or law enforcement, which is ever is appropriate according to protocol.

Where this deal stinks for the Cardinals is the fact that this guy went in and out of their system multiple times over the course of more than a year, to include the trade deadline.

If he's looking to see if Luhnow to proprietary information, one look for a few key pieces of info would've sufficed.

This guy is using that as a cover, he was trying to gain a competitive edge of not solely for his own personal gain, but also for the gain of the organization, which puts them in a pickle.

I think the damage to the organizations reputation is going to be much more punitive than any punishment levied by the league.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby MadHungo » Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:06 am

MLB must hammer St. Louis beyond its checkbook for hacking Astros

By Jeff Passan
11 hours ago
Yahoo Sports

The ugliness builds page by page, incident by incident, and by the end of the federal indictment against former St. Louis Cardinals scouting director Chris Correa, this much is obvious: If Major League Baseball doesn't dock the Cardinals draft picks in addition to a seven-figure fine, it is not just tacitly approving the computer crimes to which Correa pleaded guilty on Friday but encouraging similar nefariousness among other teams.

Shock rippled around baseball Friday when authorities released the five-page charging documents that detailed Correa's crimes. In accessing the Astros' proprietary Ground Control database, the team's repository for player evaluation, he sought draft information before and during the draft, trade information on the day of the trade deadline and, in the grossest breach, broke into an Astros employee's email to retrieve the new URL and password to Ground Control after the Astros had changed both.

As far as sins in baseball go, this exceeds any brushbacks or beanballs, any signs that can be stolen, anything shot subcutaneously through a needle. This is a direct assault on another team's front office, the triumvirate of immoral, unethical and illegal, and no matter where it emanated from on the corporate hierarchy, the punishment needs to be severe.

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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby chevyman58 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:14 pm

Former St. Louis Cardinals scouting director Chris Correa must serve 46 months in prison for hacking into the Houston Astros’ computer system to access the team’s player data and scouting notes.
Correa pled guilty to hacking the Astros’ network in January and was sentenced on Monday, receiving the exact term suggested by the prosecution.



Holy Cow! 4 Years!

Yet we have crooks on Wall Street & elected crooks in Washington who do far worse and get a pension & lifetime benefits.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby marteezy » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:07 pm

Despite the overall childish nature of the game of baseball. The act of actively breaking into another organizations database is a serious offense. I think the punishment is fair and I believe the Cardinal organization should get hammered. They hired and trusted an idiot that betrayed that trust.

He used bad judgment in the actions he chose, and they used bad judgment in employing him.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby R27 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:32 pm

MLB is on the clock. Now we find out what Manfred's been thinking.

I think the punishment is a little harsh given the way the crime was done. It's like the difference to me of swiping a $20 bill the cashier left on the counter and pointing a gun at the cashier and demanding $20. But no doubt he deserved to be well punished.
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Re: Correa Indicted in Hacking Case

Postby chevyman58 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:31 pm

marteezy wrote:Despite the overall childish nature of the game of baseball. The act of actively breaking into another organizations database is a serious offense. I think the punishment is fair and I believe the Cardinal organization should get hammered. They hired and trusted an idiot that betrayed that trust.

He used bad judgment in the actions he chose, and they used bad judgment in employing him.


Pretty $#@&'d-up justice system when another US Citizen, an Elected Official, puts National Security secrets at great unsecured risk, commits perjury to Congress, lies repeatedly to the American people and enriches herself at the expense of the poor and downtrodden yet suffers no consequence whatsoever. None.

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