R27 wrote:Things in general have gotten pretty quiet since the meetings ended.
If I had to guess, the Cardinals still think they can pry Donaldson away from the Blue Jays and that's holding up a potential deal with the Rays because they need to figure that out first so they can figure out whether they need to get Longoria too.
Yep, agree with this.
R27 wrote:I'm kind of split on Donaldson v. Machado. I'd rather Donaldson if we're talking one year, I'd rather Machado if we're signing to another deal. And I don't think Machado signs in St. Louis next winter unless he plays a year here and decides he likes it. But really either addition puts the Cards into a win now mode.
Definitely prefer Donaldson for just 1 year. If contracts were equal, I would rather have Machado long term. However, I'm not so sure I'd rather have Machado on a 12/400-450 extension or Donaldson on a 5/125-150 extension. I think I would lean Donaldson if those are the options. Plus there is still the question of Machado's home/road splits and whether he will be as good of a hitter outside of Baltimore. Donaldson doesn't have those issues.
If I am the Cards, I am pushing Toronto to make a deal of something like Donaldson for Gyorko, Grichuk, and a pitching prospect, maybe Fernandez. You can argue that it will keep them competitive both this year and actually better in 2019-2020. They need a 3B until Vlad Jr is ready (he was at A+ ball in 2017). And with Gyorko's flexibility, he can also play 2B for them. Plus his bat will play great in the launching pad in Toronto. Grichuk fits for a similar reason. They need a RF right now and for the next few years. And then I just assume they would want a pitching prospect, but I'm honestly not sure what the 3rd piece would be. If they want an MLB piece, maybe include Wacha but take back J.A. Happ. Would save them money and give an extra year of control for a slightly lesser player. Also could be someone like Bader instead of Grichuk if that is who they preferred. But I would think that Grichuk's HR ability would be a good fit for them in Toronto. And I think the 3rd piece should be less if it is Bader instead of Grichuk.
In their current situation, they are 3rd place at best in 2018 with Donaldson, lose him to FA next year and are in an even worse spot going to 2019. Or if they do sign him long term, they block their best prospect. With this trade, they are probably still 3rd place at best but can "stay competitive" in 2018 while filling some other holes, not blocking their best prospect, have plenty of flexibility, and will be much better off in 2019 and after.
Get it done Mo!