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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby R27 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:45 pm

chevyman58 wrote:They don't even list St Louis as a contender ..................... :

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/244637452 ... ke-a-deal/

That would seem to be the consensus of most Cardinals fans too.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby Tulcard » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:17 pm

R27 wrote:
chevyman58 wrote:They don't even list St Louis as a contender ..................... :

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/244637452 ... ke-a-deal/

That would seem to be the consensus of most Cardinals fans too.


Understatement, but I still have hope.... :shock:
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:15 pm

Tulcard wrote:
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chevyman58 wrote:They don't even list St Louis as a contender ..................... :

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/244637452 ... ke-a-deal/

That would seem to be the consensus of most Cardinals fans too.


Understatement, but I still have hope.... :shock:

Pretty much my thought. I have a little bit of hope but want them to try to clean up the clutter on the roster at minimum by Monday.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby marteezy » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:44 am

Saw this and found it idiotic and interesting.

"But the executive I spoke to suggested the Yankees might be able to expand a deal for Lynn to include someone like Cardinals' minor-league pitcher Jack Flaherty, a righthander promoted to Triple-A last month who is ranked at No. 53 on Baseball America's mid-season Top 100 prospect list.

"They have pitching depth so they'd probably do it for the right pieces,'' the exec said."

http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/b ... -1.3362987
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:00 pm

marteezy wrote:Saw this and found it idiotic and interesting.

"But the executive I spoke to suggested the Yankees might be able to expand a deal for Lynn to include someone like Cardinals' minor-league pitcher Jack Flaherty, a righthander promoted to Triple-A last month who is ranked at No. 53 on Baseball America's mid-season Top 100 prospect list.

"They have pitching depth so they'd probably do it for the right pieces,'' the exec said."

http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/b ... -1.3362987

Only way I'd be remotely open to something like that is if Torres is coming back.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby Tulcard » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:09 pm

Giving up way too much IMO.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:32 pm

Mo,

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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby Topps » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:13 pm

Getting close to the end here, curious to see if Mo and co make any moves or stand pat with what we've got. Really hoping to see at least something done to shake things up. What's out there currently just isn't getting it done.

Whether something's done or not in the next two days, I really hope things are shaken up in the off season. My first move would be to replace Matheny.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:39 pm

To me the only way keeping Lynn makes sense is of the have trades lined up to pick up a big bat and some bullpen help. That's the only way this team has a shot at postseason IMO. If not, sell Lynn to the highest bidder ( assuming the value is better than the value of a 2nd/3rd round sandwich pick) and then try to declutter the roster some.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby Tulcard » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:15 pm

Re-sign Lynn. We need him in OUR rotation. We have numerous "assets" to trade for a power hitter. Just need to fins the right match which I'm sure they are trying to do. If not will have to go the free agent route....for once.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:24 pm

Tulcard wrote:Re-sign Lynn. We need him in OUR rotation. We have numerous "assets" to trade for a power hitter. Just need to fins the right match which I'm sure they are trying to do. If not will have to go the free agent route....for once.

Can keep saying to re-sign him but it clearly isn't going to happen this season. From all reports they haven't even started to talk about an extension. That's why to me they need to deal him for what you can get and then you have the same chance at getting him this off-season as you did before anyway.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby Tulcard » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:32 pm

Just stating what I would like to happen. We don't know who is speaking with whom. At least I don't.... 8-)
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:52 pm

Tulcard wrote:Just stating what I would like to happen. We don't know who is speaking with whom. At least I don't.... 8-)

Hey I'm with you that I'd like to have him and trade Leake if at all possible. Just don't see it as being realistic given the way things have gone. And if they haven't started talking with him yet, let's deal him, get some great value, and go after him in the offseason like the Yankees did with Chapman. Lynn won't pull someone monstrous like Torres but should get us a really nice player.
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:43 pm

If there's nothing substantial out there in trade for Lynn, isn't there value in riding him out & getting the compensatory picks?
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Re: Official 2017 Cardinals Rumors Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:19 am

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ ... b3c10.html
https://twitter.com/TexasCardsFan1/stat ... 8578754564
"Just the general baseball fans, it's a shame when they made up their mind and make strong statements about where our club's going to go," he said, "because they don't get to be really an active part of it when something cool happens. I think about how many people must have done that in '11.
They're just so bitter - this team, this, that or the other. And kind of had their mind set. So when everything started to go well, did they truly get out to enjoy what happened from there on out? I think that's part of the excitement of the entire season. Stick it out, ride it out. You never know what you're going to see."


1) Pretty sure every fan enjoyed 2011 even if they gave up on the season in August.
2) I now think he had too many concussions when he played, because calling out the fans, especially the fans of St. Louis, is probably the WORST thing you can do as a manager of the Cardinals. First, publicly criticizing a franchise legend and fan favorite (even though he has since walked that back and claimed he didn't say what he said), now this. Not many people can be naturally this stupid, but hey maybe he is.

Bottom line, he needs to go.

Edited to add a link to another article with the quote in it.
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