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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:11 pm

#1 - It's not as risky as when we did similar with an unhealed Craig vs Boston. In fact, there's an argument it contributed to ruining his career.

#2 - Holliday hadn't hit in a game of any kind in 8 weeks, was slumping prior, was having his worst season prior and had only faced live teammate pitching once. We stuck him in there for ABs in 2 elimination games (in-effect postseason baseball) & he came thru HUGE.

#3 - Assuming they bench the pathetic LH'd hitting Heyward who ya gonna hit LH'd in the DH, who's a better bet? Cleveland's Game 1 & Game 2 starters are both RH'd.

#4. - Schwarber hit the ball in all 6 ABs + a BB. He gapped one 1st game & got robbed. He hit two rockets to 2B & gapped another in Game 2. He torched tha ball in BP, ran, slid & dove. Looked great by all accounts.

I DH the guy in a heartbeat. I think Cleveland's only got 2 lefties on the roster.

Schwarber is ON the roster, LaStella gone.

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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby R27 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:26 pm

chevyman58 wrote:#3 - Assuming they bench the pathetic LH'd hitting Heyward who ya gonna hit LH'd in the DH, who's a better bet? Cleveland's Game 1 & Game 2 starters are both RH'd.

Heyward has started every game this postseason against a RH starter. I don't see Maddon changing that approach now. I think you'll see this lineup out of the Cubs tonight, maybe you swap Heyward and Baez, but I expect this to be close.

CF Fowler
3B Bryant
1B Rizzo
LF Zobrist
SS Russell
DH Schwarber
RF Heyward
2B Baez
C Ross

#1 - It's not as risky as when we did similar with an unhealed Craig vs Boston. In fact, there's an argument it contributed to ruining his career.

I see a big difference between using a guy who has been out for a month and a half versus a whole season.

#2 - Holliday hadn't hit in a game of any kind in 8 weeks, was slumping prior, was having his worst season prior and had only faced live teammate pitching once. We stuck him in there for ABs in 2 elimination games (in-effect postseason baseball) & he came thru HUGE.

What kind of slump was he in? He hit .306 with a .405 OBP in the 10 days before he got hurt. But he also did what he did all season, and that was hit for power. His really only issue this year is that he wasn't getting the singles.

#4. - Schwarber hit the ball in all 6 ABs + a BB. He gapped one 1st game & got robbed. He hit two rockets to 2B & gapped another in Game 2. He torched tha ball in BP, ran, slid & dove. Looked great by all accounts.

Maybe, but it's a big step from AA pitching prospects in the AFL to a World Series pitching staff.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:41 pm

I accept the correction argument on the slump part, I like all my other points alot.

Don't forget Holliday had a sore hand.

My point on Heyward was Joe wouldn't consider him as a DH vs Righties.

We'll see how it works out, I think Schwarber will have a positive impact as a DH vs Righties & as a potential late-inning PH'r otherwise.

I just don't see better option @ DH vs Righty starters.

A 75% Schwarber is still a beast, just as a Craig on 1 leg was still our best option vs Bawston.

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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:49 pm

chevyman58 wrote:My point on Heyward was Joe wouldn't consider him as a DH vs Righties.

We'll see how it works out, I think Schwarber will have a positive impact as a DH vs Righties & as a potential late-inning PH'r otherwise.

I just don't see better option @ DH vs Righty starters.

A 75% Schwarber is still a beast, just as a Craig on 1 leg was still our best option vs Bawston.

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Pretty big difference though between alternate options for the Cards in 2013 and the Cubs this year. Craig's replacement was one of Descalso, Kozma, or Shane Robinson so yes a 1 legged Craig was still better than the replacement. The Cubs have Willson Contreras who is arguably as good as Schwarber when healthy (has no problem hitting RHP) and if Schwarber isn't healthy then it should be obvious.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby R27 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:50 pm

chevyman58 wrote:My point on Heyward was Joe wouldn't consider him as a DH vs Righties.

He's basically playing DF (Designated Fielder) anyway.

We'll see. I just see depth enough on the team that forcing a guy like Schwarber, who has played all of two games this year and doesn't even have 300 MLB ABs, into that situation seems silly. But maybe Game 1 will change everyone's minds.

Doing the same with a guy who has a few years under his belt (Craig) or even a career (Holliday), feels very different to me than a guy who doesn't even have a half season of experience.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:52 pm

R27 wrote:
chevyman58 wrote:My point on Heyward was Joe wouldn't consider him as a DH vs Righties.

He's basically playing DF (Designated Fielder) anyway.

We'll see. I just see depth enough on the team that forcing a guy like Schwarber, who has played all of two games this year and doesn't even have 300 MLB ABs, into that situation seems silly. But maybe Game 1 will change everyone's minds.

Doing the same with a guy who has a few years under his belt (Craig) or even a career (Holliday), feels very different to me than a guy who doesn't even have a half season of experience.

My thoughts exactly. Using him as a PH at some point would make perfect sense, but throwing him into the fire after 2 games in the AFL seems absurd. I know everyone went insane about how great he was last postseason, but his regular season numbers from last year were no better than Contreras' this year.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby BrewCards » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:57 pm

This isn't Craig or Holiday or Kirk Gibson (as the talk in my office is projecting) This is a guy with less than half a season of MLB experience who's last hit in a meaningful game was over a year ago in Game 3 of the NLCS on 10/20/2015
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby R27 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:58 pm

The only plus really to starting him, is that you get 3-4 ABs to judge for yourself whether he's going to be able to contribute. Rather than sticking him into a potentially game breaking position as a pinch hitter.

I think starting him is smarter than using him as PH, but still think it's unecessary.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:00 pm

Well .............. one thing we can all agree on is this isn't the 1st time EVERYONE disagreed with my opinion. Not by a mile.

We'll see. I think Schwarber has an impact.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:01 pm

Some Series seats priced at $100,000 — and more

Fans hoping to see the Chicago Cubs play in the World Series for the first time in more than 70 years are finding a seat could cost them more than what their grandparents paid for their house. The euphoria from the team’s victory Saturday night over the Los Angeles Dodgers, giving the Cubs their first berth in the World Series since 1945, gave way Monday to the realization that history doesn’t come cheap.

The asking price for some Wrigley Field box seats on ticket-selling sites such as StubHub was $50,000 and up, with one seller asking $100,000 for a seat and another asking for just under $1 million. But there were a lot of box seat tickets in the $5,000 to $10,000 range. By comparison, ticketiQ reports the average ticket prices for Super Bowl 50 were $5,390. Tickets to just get into Wrigley and stand behind those with actual seats were going for more than $2,200 each.

The asking price for tickets for the four games scheduled in Cleveland average $3,286, but were selling Monday for an average of $1,640. This is a bargain compared to average asking prices to the three games at Wrigley — $6,048, while the actual sale price has averaged $3,870.

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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby mhardy_03 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:05 pm

R27 wrote:The only plus really to starting him, is that you get 3-4 ABs to judge for yourself whether he's going to be able to contribute. Rather than sticking him into a potentially game breaking position as a pinch hitter.

I think starting him is smarter than using him as PH, but still think it's unecessary.

The problem with judging if he is going to be able to contribute in the World Series is that if it takes a couple games to find out that he can't, the rest of the team has another thing to overcome and you could easily find yourself down 2-0.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:11 pm

He's gonna do fine.

Trust me.

Believe me.

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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby R27 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:13 pm

He's gonna do it. It's gonna be great. It's going to be so great, nobody's gonna do it as great as him.
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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:16 pm

R27 wrote:He's gonna do it. It's gonna be great. It's going to be so great, nobody's gonna do it as great as him.


Your going to be saying, "Mr. Schwarber, can you stop hitting & making us win? We've never, ever won so much, it's wearing us out. Please stop hitting, please stop winning".

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Re: 2016 Postseason Thread

Postby chevyman58 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:17 pm

The question that needs to be answered is whether Schwarber can contribute more than, say, Jorge Soler or Chris Coghlan, who have had limited at-bats.

"If anything, a lot of young, talented guys, you worry about them feeling like Superman," said Jason McLeod, the Cubs director of scouting and player development. "This was a very serious injury he's coming back from. I had questions about the running, the cutting, sliding the bases, turning on the back leg. We've watched all of his [at-bats], and health-wise he looks good, which is the thing I was most concerned with.
"It's asking quite a bit of anyone to sit out of the game for that long of time and then be potentially ready for something like this."

Schwarber, who tore the ACL and LCL in his left knee in a freak collision with Dexter Fowler on April 7, certainly would be playing in a ballpark where he feels at home. He made his Major League debut in Cleveland on June 16, 2015, when he was called up from Triple-A Iowa to be the designated hitter in Interleague games. He pinch-hit in his first game, but then went on a tear, going 6-for-9 with a home run, a triple and four RBIs in the next two games against the Indians.

A native of Middletown, Ohio, he has thrived in the state of Ohio. In seven games against the Reds last year, he was 11-for-27 with two homers, one double and five RBIs.

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